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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2009.09.08 23:25:00 -
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Hmmm could be some giant egg on the face of F9 who's vain attempts at "mega rich" moralizing look to have backfired.
Excellent thread - keep up the good posts :)
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2009.09.09 01:02:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 01:06:04
The situation as i understand it:
1) F900 claims to want to give the State Raven back to what he considers "the rightfull owner" Sir Molle (Molle incidentally has show with Hedgemons Rast Titan he has his own dubious definitions of Right full Owner)
2) SFS claims Molle was an accomplice in the "theft".
3) F900 demands proof Molle was an accomplice, and if this proof is shown, he will pay SFS the 180 billion
4) SFS is happy to give this proof - with the provisio CHRIBBA (the only fully trusted 3rd party remaining in game) holds onto the Isk. When Chribba has the isk SFS will release the proof.
Well what have you got to lose f900?.
After you have admited to not fufilling your side of the bargain with SFS - he is in his rights to ask for a middle man and Chribba is trustworthy.
Consider the following scenarios
 Best case scenario - SFS is talking **** - Chribba gives you your isk back. Molle gets his ship. Your decision is validated and you regain your E-HonourLOSER --> SFS
Worst case scenario - SFS proves Molle was an accomplice - Chribba gives SFS the isk - You keep a 180 billion isk ship. You repair your E-Honour.LOSER --> MOLLE
Outside Chance Scenario- Chribba steals the isk. You keep a 180 billion isk ship. LOSER --> MOLLE AND SFS
Please note that you are not the loser in either scenario. So you have nothing to lose.
Since you have set yourself on the path of "moral honest righteousness" - the least you can do is finish it off.
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2009.09.09 01:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Coranor
Originally by: Le Skunk
Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 01:06:49
The situation as i understand it:
1) F900 claims to want to give the State Raven back to what he considers "the rightfull owner" Sir Molle (Molle incidentally has show with Hedgemons Rast Titan he has his own dubious definitions of Right full Owner)
That was me, pay attention there.
If I borrow 50 dollars from a friend, and then give that 50 dollars to a tramp who then spends the 50 dollars. Does the tramp owe my friend 50 dollars? Or do I owe my friend 50 dollars?
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2009.09.09 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 02:01:55
Originally by: F90OEX
Edited by: F90OEX on 09/09/2009 01:27:59
Le Skunk,
It's on my terms or nothing, I am not going to be "played" into anything at this stage if he does not like it too bad.
Ceralio has done nothing but lied, stole and made up as he goes along to suit his own needs since no one is interested in his lottery nor the other ship, as stated he either post what he has or move on.....
Also the ship would not go back to Molle since he has already agreed with me once the ship is sold or isk raised from a lottery, the isk would go back to the players who won the the ship I have.
Well I dont think you are being "played" when he asks for a trusted middle man.
This is a standard practice when dealing with large amounts of money amongst the general EVE populace.
You are obviously used to being trusted 100% - and so somebody asking for a middle man to assist with their dealings with you is strange and insulting. You think you are being messed with and "played"
Well unfortunately you have relinquished the trust placed in you (I understand your reasons for doing so) and actualy are now In a position of being LESS TRUSTWORTHY then the average member of the populace (as there is evidence of you betraying your word and backing out on a deal)
I think its rather churlish to act indignant and bridle up at SFS wanting to use a middle man and expect him to take your "word for it" when you've admitted yourself to stitching him up not 24 hours earlier
Youve just simply got to get used to the fact nobody now will trust you anymore then they will trust a random face in Jita - and use a trusted third party to conduct your high value deals (such as chribba)
I think the small 5 minutes effort needed will be well worth the shining light of truth on this whole sordid affair.
So all you have to do is:
1) Transfer Isk To Chribba
1b) If you are not liquid - transfer ship to Chribba
2) Chribba Posts in thread
3) TRUTH WILL OUT (whether its that SFS is lying - or Molle was complicit)
BTW: If Molle indeed was involved, then OFC he will try to cover it up by asking for the isk to be spread amongst the winner. This proves nothing.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2009.09.09 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Coranor
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Coranor
Originally by: Le Skunk
Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 01:06:49
The situation as i understand it:
1) F900 claims to want to give the State Raven back to what he considers "the rightfull owner" Sir Molle (Molle incidentally has show with Hedgemons Rast Titan he has his own dubious definitions of Right full Owner)
That was me, pay attention there.
If I borrow 50 dollars from a friend, and then give that 50 dollars to a tramp who then spends the 50 dollars. Does the tramp owe my friend 50 dollars? Or do I owe my friend 50 dollars?
SKUNK
You thought about that a while didn't you?
Well i thought it was funny :)
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2009.09.09 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: F90OEX
Le Skunk
Again understand but I won't get Chribba involved in this mess, I have nothing to lose at this point, the people who say they won't use me as 3rd party, would not use me anyways or have nothing to use me for.
"BTW: If Molle indeed was involved, then OFC he will try to cover it up by asking for the isk to be spread amongst the winner. This proves nothing"
Your right it does not prove anything, but at least the isk goes to the right players and that's all that matters at this point.
Well your right of course they will be happy to have some isk return. It just would have been nice to have had the full truth exposed.
Thanks for your replys btw
Good luck
SKUNK
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